linux-kernel - Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1

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Date:	Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:38:53 -0600
From:	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>
To:	Karel Zak <kzak@...hat.com>
Cc:	Mike Frysinger <vapier@...too.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	List util-linux-ng <util-linux-ng@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1

On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 11:30:20PM +0200, Karel Zak wrote:
> > > >  The package build system is now based on autotools. The build system
> > > >  supports  separate CFLAGS and LDFLAGS for suid programs (SUID_CFLAGS,
> > > >  SUID_LDFLAGS). For more details see the README file
> > >
> > > And this is really dumb.  autotools is a completely pain in the ass and
> 
>  Well, Adrian Bunk added autotools stuff to util-linux during his work
>  on v2.13. This stuff has been fixed and stabilized in util-linux-ng
>  v2.13.
> 
>  I'm not fanatical autotools protagonist, but it seems useful in
>  util-linux. We will see...
> 
>  I'm ready to change or fix arbitrary thing in util-linux-ng, but I
>  always need a real reason -- bug report, new feature, or so. This
>  discussion is about impressions and feelings only.

No, it's based on long, hard and painful experiences attempting to debug
the fuckups that autoconf creates when it goes wrong.

-- 
"Bill, look, we understand that you're interested in selling us this
operating system, but compare it to ours.  We can't possibly take such
a retrograde step."
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