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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0707061705260.2241@be1.lrz>
Date:	Fri, 6 Jul 2007 17:24:54 +0200 (CEST)
From:	Bodo Eggert <7eggert@....de>
To:	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>
cc:	Bodo Eggert <7eggert@....de>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] introduce panic_gently

On Fri, 6 Jul 2007, Andi Kleen wrote:

> Bodo Eggert <7eggert@....de> writes:
> 
> > If the boot process failes to find init or the root fs, the cause has 
> > usually scrolled off the screen, and because of the panic, it can't be 
> > reached anymore.
> > 
> > This patch introduces panic_gently, which will allow to use the scrollback 
> > buffer and to reboot, but it can't be called from unsafe context.
> 
> The implementation certainly has too much duplicated code. If anything
> it needs some common functions.

There are common parts, but they have subtile differences.
I'd rather make that function __init and not wory about that 200 bytes.


Maybe some parts can be skipped, too.

> The problem with keeping interrupts on is that the system might continue
> to route packets. This is sometimes quite unexpected for users.

> Arguably that's unlikely to be already enabled for missing root,
> but in theory initrd could have done it.

If initrd set up a router, it should should also do the mounts and call 
init, shouldn't it? In this case, the panic() won't ever happen.

(At least the kernel panic()s if I run rdinit=/bin/ash and exit that
 shell, therefore I can't depend on the kernel to execute init.)

> I think i would prefer if the normal panic() tried to detect the situations
> where this is 
> 
> It couldn't detect spinlocks, but interrupts off/interrupt context etc.

I asumed that to be the greater challenge, taking several months to get 
right instead of a few minutes. (I'm not sure I really got this right, but 
it happens to works for me.-)

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