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Message-ID: <87myy9b1aq.fsf@hades.wkstn.nix>
Date:	Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:43:57 +0100
From:	Nix <nix@...eri.org.uk>
To:	Mike Frysinger <vapier@...too.org>
Cc:	List util-linux-ng <util-linux-ng@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1

On 6 Jul 2007, Mike Frysinger spake thusly:

> On Friday 06 July 2007, Nix wrote:
>> On 5 Jul 2007, Bernhard Walle stated:
>> >                                While cmake itself isn't the problem,
>> > often, it also depends on the version of cmake that is installed. The
>> > good idea about auto* tools is the idea that you don't need to install
>> > any tools to build, just to develop. A POSIX shell and Perl should be
>> > installed everywhere ...
>>
>> You don't need Perl to run configure scripts, either, and it's only
>> recently that it started requiring a POSIX shell rather than something
>> of the calibre of Solaris's /bin/sh.
>
> since when does autotools require a POSIX shell ?

autoconf 2.55's NEWS said:

,----
| - shell functions
| 
|   Shell functions will gradually be introduced, probably starting with
|   Autotest.  If you know machines which are in use that you suspect
|   *not* to support shell functions, please run the test suite of
|   Autoconf 2.55 on it, and report the results to
|   bug-autoconf@....org.
`----

but actually I'm not sure if this was ever done. That's not actually `a
POSIX shell' I suppose, but it's also not going to work on prehistoric
shells like Solaris's 1980-vintage /bin/sh.

-- 
`... in the sense that dragons logically follow evolution so they would
 be able to wield metal.' --- Kenneth Eng's colourless green ideas sleep
 furiously
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