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Message-ID: <20070706234315.GA19804@Krystal>
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 19:43:15 -0400
From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@...sta.de>
Cc: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@...hat.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...il.com>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, mbligh@...gle.com
Subject: Re: [patch 10/10] Scheduler profiling - Use immediate values
* Adrian Bunk (bunk@...sta.de) wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 06:14:10PM -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote:
> > On 07/06/2007 07:44 AM, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > I think the optimization is a good idea, although i dislike it
> > > that it is complicated for the dynamic markers. If it was just
> > > static it would be much simpler.
> >
> > Another thing to consider is that there might be hundreds of these
> > probes/tracepoints active in an instrumented kernel. The overhead
> > adds up fast, so the gain may be worth all the pain.
>
> Only if you want to squeeze the last bit of performance out of
> _debugging_ functionality.
>
> You avoid all the pain if you simply don't use debugging functionality
> on production systems.
>
Adrian,
Please have a look at my markers posts, especially:
http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0707.0/0669.html
And also look into OLS 2007 proceedings for Martin Bligh's paper on
Debugging Google sized clusters. It basically makes the case for adding
functionnality to debug _user space_ problems on production systems that
can be turned on dynamically.
Mathieu
> cu
> Adrian
>
> --
>
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> of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
> "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
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>
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