linux-kernel - Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

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Message-Id: <200707060932.31345.oliver@neukum.org>
Date:	Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:32:30 +0200
From:	Oliver Neukum <oliver@...kum.org>
To:	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
Cc:	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...redi.hu>, pavel@....cz, paulus@...ba.org,
	stern@...land.harvard.edu, johannes@...solutions.net, rjw@...k.pl,
	linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	mjg59@...f.ucam.org
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

Am Freitag, 6. Juli 2007 schrieb Benjamin Herrenschmidt:
> > Yes, fuse could handle being frozen there.  However that would only
> > solve part of the problem: an operation waiting for a reply could be
> > holding a VFS mutex and some other task may be blocked on that mutex.
> > 
> > How would you solve freezing those tasks?
> 
> That task is implicitely frozen... but the kernel doesn't know it and
> thus the freezer timeouts or fails or deadlocks or whatever.
> 
> The freezer could be made to ignore tasks that are sleeping in the
> kernel assuming that if they go out of it, they'll ultimately reach
> do_signal and freeze, but that means they can potentially still issues
> IOs which is what the freezer tries to avoid ...
> 
> Or the kernel could start tracking dependencies, but then, good luck
> implementing that crap.

Do we need dependencies? Don't we know that fuse can deadlock only
on a limited number of locks in VFS?

	Regards
		Oliver

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