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Message-Id: <20070712172023.d59c3001.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Date:	Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:20:23 -0700
From:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Greg KH <gregkh@...e.de>, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-usb-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [GIT PATCH] USB patches for 2.6.22

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:03:46 -0700 (PDT)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:

> 
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Greg KH wrote:
> >
> > Here are a bunch of USB patches and fixes against your 2.6.22 git tree.
> 
> This also seems to contain some *totally*pointless* config variable 
> changes, that actually break simple things like "make oldconfig".
> 
> This commit is insane: acb11c8b8020f1f1b2545152020675ef32d09a58 "USB: fix 
> gregkh-usb-usb-use-menuconfig-objects"
> 
> It fixes nothing at all, quite the reverse. It makes the default be 
> somethign that breaks everything, and more irritatingly, even if you 
> answer 'y' (against the default), it breaks "make oldconfig", which will 
> have ignored all the old options and now will ask you for all of them 
> again.
> 
> Yeah, that second part may be a "make oldconfig" bug, but regardless, 
> these kinds of Kconfig changes are BAD, BAD, BAD!
> 
> I hate how people do just stupid things to "clean up" config files 
> (renaming config options etc), apparently never even bothering to think 
> about whether a question is sane or not, or whether normal users want to 
> see it or not.
> 
> I know I'm not the only one who does "make oldconfig". Answering the same 
> questions over and over again is not something *anybody* wants to do.
> 
> So please stop this madness. I've reverted the change that left the 
> menuconfig entry without a default, which at least fixes "make oldconfig", 
> but I just found this really irritating. I can pretty much guarantee that 
> nobody actually *tested* this change, did they?
> 

I went through the same pain a few weeks ago and I _thought_ all except one
of these "fixes" got tossed.  However it looks like the USB one escaped.
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