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Message-ID: <00a701c7c78a$2478cfa0$8700a8c0@btlooksmart.net>
Date:	Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:17:29 +0100
From:	"Dr. Keith G. Bowden" <k.bowden@...sics.bbk.ac.uk>
To:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, "Li Yang" <leo@...kernel.org>
Cc:	"Rob Landley" <rob@...dley.net>, "Gerrit Huizenga" <gh@...ibm.com>,
	"Kunai, Takashi" <kunai@...ux-foundation.jp>,
	<holzheu@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	<lf_kernel_messages@...ux-foundation.org>, <mtk-manpages@....net>,
	<jack@...e.cz>, <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>, <gregkh@...e.de>,
	<pavel@....cz>, <tim.bird@...sony.com>, <arjan@...radead.org>,
	<sam@...nborg.org>, <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>, <joe@...ches.com>,
	<auke-jan.h.kok@...el.com>, <hansendc@...ibm.com>,
	<davem@...emloft.net>, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu>,
	<kenistoj@...ibm.com>, <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>,
	<heiko.carstens@...ibm.com>, <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

What I would like to see is the Americans learning English as a FIRST
language.

Keith (England)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To: "Li Yang" <leo@...kernel.org>
Cc: "Rob Landley" <rob@...dley.net>; "Gerrit Huizenga" <gh@...ibm.com>;
"Kunai, Takashi" <kunai@...ux-foundation.jp>; <holzheu@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>;
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>; <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>;
<lf_kernel_messages@...ux-foundation.org>; <mtk-manpages@....net>;
<jack@...e.cz>; <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>; <gregkh@...e.de>; <pavel@....cz>;
<tim.bird@...sony.com>; <arjan@...radead.org>; <sam@...nborg.org>;
<jengelh@...putergmbh.de>; <joe@...ches.com>; <auke-jan.h.kok@...el.com>;
<hansendc@...ibm.com>; <davem@...emloft.net>; <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu>;
<kenistoj@...ibm.com>; <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>;
<heiko.carstens@...ibm.com>; <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer


> Li Yang wrote:
> >
> > I think you worried too much about this problem.  :)  Let me explain
> > the situation here in China more clearly.  Actually, English is
> > mandatory in most schools and universities.  Only very few people
> > learn other language as a second language.  Therefore software
> > developers who are almost educated should have the basic English
> > skill.  However, that doesn't mean that they can read English or
> > communicate with native English speaker very easily.  Consider your
> > second language learn in school for analogy.
>
> Actually, I disagree.  English *is* the second language learned in
> school for most European developers (except, obviously, the ones from
> the British isles), and we don't have that problem.
>
> > Read in English will be much slower and more likely to cause
> > misunderstanding.  This will
> > reduce the likelihood greatly of English documentation being read.  If
> > we are promoting contribution to the Linux community, we should
> > maximum the possibility that these key documents being read.
> > Translation will serve this purpose very well.
>
> What we have found in Europe, is that that it has limited value, and
> that the closer to the core you are, the less value it is, because at
> that stage you should be communicating more with other developers.
> Putting yourself behind a wall of translation is unfortunately a
> detriment in that way.
>
> -hpa
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