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Message-Id: <200707171622.53657.rjw@sisk.pl>
Date:	Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:22:52 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@...el.com>
Cc:	david@...g.hm, "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, nigel@...el.suspend2.net,
	Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@....edu>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	Kexec Mailing List <kexec@...ts.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base	hibernation

On Tuesday, 17 July 2007 14:48, Huang, Ying wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 01:13 -0700, david@...g.hm wrote:
> > however, since the resume designed for ACPI won't work would the following 
> > approach work
> > 
> > 1. boot one kernel
> > 2. setup a kexec the same way you would for hibernate
> > 3. kexec to the new kernel
> > 4. overwrite the memory of the first kernel
> > 5. kexec 'back' to the main kernel that has now been overwritten by what was saved?
> > 
> > as part of this question, when you do a kexec, how does the kernel that 
> > you are doing the kexec to know what to run next?
> 
> For kernel in 3 that do kexec, the devices and CPU state are saved into
> memory before executing the new kernel. So when jumping back, the
> control will continue from kexec point. If the memory image of main
> kernel is restored from disk, the devices and CPU state in memory is
> restored too. Before jumping back in 5, the devices are put in the known
> state, after jumping back, the devices and CPU state is restored. If the
> "kexec -j" is used to trigger the kexec in 3, the system will continue
> with "kexec -j" exiting with exit code 0.
> 
> > it needs to do some initialization first before it starts running normal 
> > things, and at that point it the move back doesn't look for init like a 
> > normal kernel boot (or the system would effectivly boot instead of picking 
> > up where it left off)
> 
> I think the early initialization can be done in a initramfs. At that
> point, the resume image can be checked, the next step depends on the
> result of checking.
> 
> > is this 'restart point' flexible enough that either the pre-hibernate 
> > kerenl or the small hibernate kernel could tell the pre-hibernate kernel 
> > to go into suspend-to-ram mode before doing anything else?
> 
> It is possible for hibernate kernel to pass information back to
> pre-hibernate kernel. For example, the information can be passed in jump
> buffer page. 

I think it would be reasonable to have a protocol defined for passing this
information, so that it's independent of the kernel version etc.

Greetings,
Rafael


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