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Date:	Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:31:00 +0200
From:	"Alessandro Suardi" <alessandro.suardi@...il.com>
To:	"john stultz" <johnstul@...ibm.com>
Cc:	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: clocksource change of behavior in 2.6.22 compared to 2.6.20 causes massive system clock slowdown

On 7/11/07, john stultz <johnstul@...ibm.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 01:31 +0200, Alessandro Suardi wrote:
> > On 7/10/07, john stultz <johnstul@...ibm.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 00:29 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 16:27:59 +0200 "Alessandro Suardi" <alessandro.suardi@...il.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My oldish AMD K7-800's clock began falling behind after
> > > > >  rebooting from 2.6.20 (and 109 days uptime with a spotless
> > > > >  clock) into 2.6.22; time lost is about four minutes each hour.
> > > > >
> > > > > Turns out that 2.6.22 marks my TSC as unstable and starts
> > > > >  using PIT instead. Rebooting 2.6.22 with clocksource=tsc
> > > > >  gets the original stable system time back.
> > >
> > > Alessandro,
> > > Can you send me dmesg output for 2.6.20 and 2.6.22 (without
> > > clocksource=tsc)?
> >
> > Actually, I lied a little bit - it was 2.6.22 with clock=tsc (which
> >  warns on boot about clock= being deprecated in favor of
> >  clocksource= ). I assume behavior is identical for now.
> >
> > Please find attached the dmesg ring (incomplete, as the
> >  kernel ring size I have seems too small to hold the full
> >  buffer, but it seems to have all the interesting stuff) of
> >  2.6.20, 2.6.22, 2.6.22 with clock=tsc.
> >
> > If you need more info, just ask. I'll be out of the country
> >  from July 12 to the morning of July 16, and again from
> >  July 17 to July 20, so if you'd rather get at this later on,
> >  it's okay for me ;)
>
> You're dmesg output got chopped at the top. Please increase the kernel
> log buffer size.

Done, please find attached both 2620 and 2622 full dmesg output,
 with no clock= or clocksource= parameters.

> Sounds like your PIT frequency is out of whack, and I'm guessing the
> generic clocksource watchdog blames the TSC and disqualifies it.
>
> Few things to check:
> 1) Make sure you're running the latest BIOS.

I'm probably not, though I'm not sure I'd flash anything on such
 an old machine - been running it since RedHat 9 with the
 current BIOS. Plus, I removed the floppy drive to make room
 for an extra IDE disk... it'd take me a little bit to find out whether
 I still have the floppy drive around.

> 2) See if booting w/ noapic changes anything

Nope, 2622+noapic => PIT is still used and clock very quickly
 lags behind.

For the moment being I'll keep booting with clocksource=tsc.
Let me know whether you want me to test anything more...

thanks, ciao,

--alessandro

 "Did you get married but forgot to get divorced ?"

     (Danny and Dusty, 'The Good Old Days')

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