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Message-ID: <20070719162539.GU3801@stusta.de>
Date:	Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:25:39 +0200
From:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...sta.de>
To:	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@...ibm.com>
Cc:	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@...s-sol.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@...ho.nsa.gov>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH try #3] security: Convert LSM into a static interface

On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 08:37:27AM -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting James Morris (jmorris@...ei.org):
> > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > 
> > > > It's already pretty clear.
> > > 
> > > I doubt anyone not on lkml or linux-security-module has heard of this.
> > > 
> > > So we'll see.
> > > 
> > > (I was, obviously, talking about end-users)
> > 
> > If distributions are shipping binary modules and other out of tree code to 
> > their users, then they should bear responsibility for supporting and 
> > maintaining the infrastructure required for it, and not expect upstream 
> > maintainers to do it for them.
> > 
> > Additionally, if they want to expose their users to risks arising from 
> > broken and unecessary infrastructure, then they should bear the cost and 
> > responsibility of doing that and not expect others to do so as well.
> > 
> > I don't see how this is even slightly difficult to understand.
> 
> I'm not talking about distros - I don't see how this is even slightly
> difficult to understand  :)
> 
> The situation I have in mind is someone who decideds to use, say, SLIM,
> but wants to otherwise use the distro kernel.
>...

AFAIR this does anyway not work because at least the version of SLIM 
that once was in -mm required some patching of the kernel.

> -serge

cu
Adrian

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