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Message-ID: <20070720004559.GO11781@holomorphy.com>
Date:	Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:45:59 -0700
From:	William Lee Irwin III <wli@...omorphy.com>
To:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
Cc:	Andi Kleen <ak@...e.de>, lkml@....ca, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH for review] [7/48] i386: divorce CONFIG_X86_PAE from CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G

From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@...omorphy.com>
>> PAE is useful for more than supporting more than 4GB RAM.  It supports
>> expanded swapspace and NX executable protections.  Some users may want NX
>> or expanded swapspace support without the overhead or instability of
>> highmem.  For these reasons, the following patch divorces CONFIG_X86_PAE
>> from CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G.

On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 03:52:29PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> What overhead of instability of highmem?  Sorry folks but this is utter
> bollocks.  Back in the Caldera days we did a lot of measurement on highmem
> overhead, and CONFIG_HIGHMEM has no measurable overhead at all on a system
> that doesn't use it.  CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G on the other hand has
> a quite visible overhead on small systems, but that's entirely due to the
> bigger page table entries that you need for NX.

The missing context here is CONFIG_VMSPLIT on laptops.

Laptop users, who frequently use CONFIG_VMSPLIT options to avoid
highmem, wanted to turn on NX. Prior to the patch, those options were
barred for all highmem configurations. In response to those requests,
I produced the patch.

The overhead and instability derived from tiny zones as opposed to
kmap()/kunmap(), or at least such was the case historically.


-- wli
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