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Message-ID: <46B051B5.6020207@ah.jp.nec.com>
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:26:13 +0900
From: Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@...jp.nec.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
CC: vgoyal@...ibm.com, k-miyoshi@...jp.nec.com,
Bernhard Walle <bwalle@...e.de>, kexec@...ts.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier
Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@...jp.nec.com> writes:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> IMHO, most users don't use kdump, kdump users are only kernel developers and
>> enterprise users.
>
> Not at all. So far the only kdump related bug report I have seen has
> been from fedora Core.
Sorry, I thought general users push reset button when the machine is
panicked. :-(
> No. The problem with your patch is that it doesn't have a code
> impact. We need to see who is using this and why.
My motivation is very simple. I want to use both kdb and kdump, but I think it
is too weak to satisfy kexec guys. Then I brought up the example enterprise
software. But it isn't a lie. I know some drivers which use panic_notifier.
IMHO, they use only major distribution, and they has the workaround or they
don't notice this problem yet. I think they will be in trouble if all
distributions choose only kdump.
BTW, I use kdb and lkcd now, but I want to use kdb and kdump. I sent a patch to
kdb community but it was rejected. kdb maintainer Keith Owens said,
> Both KDB and crash_kexec should be using the panic_notifier_chain, with
> KDB having a higher priority than crash_exec. The whole point of
> notifier chains is to handle cases like this, so we should not be
> adding more code to the panic routine.
>
> The real problem here is the way that the crash_exec code is hard coded
> into various places instead of using notifier chains. The same issue
> exists in arch/ia64/kernel/mca.c because of bad coding practices from
> kexec.
Then I gave up to merge my patch to kdb, and I tried to send another patch to
kexec community. I can understand his opinion, but it is very difficult to
modify that kdump is called from panic_notifier. Because it has a reason why
kdump don't use panic_notifier. So, I made this patch.
Please do something about this problem.
Thanks,
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