linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 00/23] per device dirty throttling -v8

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Message-Id: <1186336953.2777.17.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
Date:	Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:02:33 -0700
From:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
To:	Jörn Engel <joern@...fs.org>
Cc:	Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	miklos@...redi.hu, akpm@...ux-foundation.org, neilb@...e.de,
	dgc@....com, tomoki.sekiyama.qu@...achi.com, nikita@...sterfs.com,
	trond.myklebust@....uio.no, yingchao.zhou@...il.com,
	richard@....demon.co.uk, david@...g.hm
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/23] per device dirty throttling -v8

On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 16:17 +0200, Jörn Engel wrote:
> On Sun, 5 August 2007 10:53:54 +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 09:21:41AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > 
> > > btw., Mutt does not go boom, i use it myself. It works just fine and 
> > > notices new mails even on a noatime,nodiratime filesystem.
> > 
> > IIRC, atime is used by mailers and by the shell to detect that new
> > mail has arrived and report it only once if there are several intances
> > watching the same mbox.
> > 
> > I too use mutt and noatime,nodiratime everywhere (same 10 year-old
> > thinko), and the only side effect is that when I have a new mail,
> > it is reported in all of my xterms until I read it, clearly something
> > I can live with (and sometimes it's even desirable).
> > 
> > In fact, mutt is pretty good at this. It updates atime and ctime itself
> > as soon as it opens the mbox, so the shell is happy and only reports
> > "you have mail" afterwards.
> 
> For me mutt fails to recognize new mail.  And the difference might be
> this:

but does it work with relatime ?


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