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Date:	Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:46:59 -0400
From:	Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@...hat.com>
To:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
CC:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	J??rn Engel <joern@...fs.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	miklos@...redi.hu, akpm@...ux-foundation.org, neilb@...e.de,
	dgc@....com, tomoki.sekiyama.qu@...achi.com, nikita@...sterfs.com,
	trond.myklebust@....uio.no, yingchao.zhou@...il.com,
	richard@....demon.co.uk, david@...g.hm
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/23] per device dirty throttling -v8

On 08/06/2007 03:37 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
>> We already tried that here. The response: "If noatime is so great, why
>> isn't it the default in the kernel?"
> 
> Ok so we have a pile of people @redhat.com sitting on linux-kernel
> complaining about Red Hat distributions not taking it up. Guys - can
> we just fix it internally please like sensible folk ?
> 
> Ingo's latest 'not quite noatime' seems to cure mutt/tmpwatch so it might
> finally make sense to do so.

Do we report max(ctime, mtime) as the atime by default when noatime
is set or do we still need that to be done?

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