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Message-ID: <46B89BE7.8090903@garzik.org>
Date:	Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:20:55 -0400
From:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
To:	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...elEye.com>
CC:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PATCH] scsi bug fixes for 2.6.23-rc2

James Bottomley wrote:
> I'm arguing that a too strict an interpretation of bugfix only post -rc1
> will damage feature stabilisation.  Please think carefully about this.
> If we go out in a released kernel with a problematic user space ABI, we
> end up being committed to it forever.


IMO you're going off on your own tangent.  Linus never singled out bsg 
(far from it, in fact, since bsg was not a major LOC contributor) or 
declared ABI-related fixes verboten.

I don't think anyone wants to release a userspace ABI with problems, 
since we all know that's basically locked in stone once its in a 
mainline release.

AFAICS his main complaint was he felt your push was a big honking huge 
change, late in the game, that included obvious non-fixes.  And it was. 
  lpfc was probably the biggest part of that, not bsg, and it's pretty 
clear such a big lpfc update should have gone in when the merge window 
was open.  The [non-lpfc] cleanups were also not -rc2 material.

	Jeff


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