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Message-Id: <1186504271.3414.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:31:11 -0500
From:	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...elEye.com>
To:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PATCH] scsi bug fixes for 2.6.23-rc2

On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 12:20 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> James Bottomley wrote:
> > I'm arguing that a too strict an interpretation of bugfix only post -rc1
> > will damage feature stabilisation.  Please think carefully about this.
> > If we go out in a released kernel with a problematic user space ABI, we
> > end up being committed to it forever.
> 
> 
> IMO you're going off on your own tangent.  Linus never singled out bsg 
> (far from it, in fact, since bsg was not a major LOC contributor) or 
> declared ABI-related fixes verboten.
> 
> I don't think anyone wants to release a userspace ABI with problems, 
> since we all know that's basically locked in stone once its in a 
> mainline release.
> 
> AFAICS his main complaint was he felt your push was a big honking huge 
> change, late in the game, that included obvious non-fixes.  And it was. 
>   lpfc was probably the biggest part of that, not bsg, and it's pretty 
> clear such a big lpfc update should have gone in when the merge window 
> was open.  The [non-lpfc] cleanups were also not -rc2 material.

I think you'll find that part of the complaint was addressed in the
first part of the email which you didn't quote.

James


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