linux-kernel - Re: Disk spin down issue on shut down/suspend to disk

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Message-ID: <46B8140E.3000509@gmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:41:18 +0900
From:	Tejun Heo <htejun@...il.com>
To:	Robert Hancock <hancockr@...w.ca>
CC:	Michael Sedkowski <sedmich@...il.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@....eng.br>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-ide@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org, Thomas Renninger <trenn@...e.de>
Subject: Re: Disk spin down issue on shut down/suspend to disk

Robert Hancock wrote:
> Tejun Heo wrote:
>> Michael Sedkowski wrote:
>>>> Hmmm... If the problem only shows up on nx6325, it might be that
>>>> ACPI is
>>>> pulling unnecessary stunt.  Please apply the attached patch and report
>>>> when the disk spins down and up.
>>> Disk spins down on "Pre-shutdown prepare" and then goes up and down on
>>> "Power down".
>>
>> Oh... crap, so acpi wants to sync cache on shutdown.  I wonder whether
>> it spins down the disk correctly.  Does emergency unload count increase
>> after each power down?  Also, please post the result of 'dmidecode'.
> 
> I know that my Compaq X1000-series laptop does do some kind of ACPI
> games with the disk on ACPI power off (I assume it is putting the disk
> in standby before power-off at least). It also does this if you boot
> into DOS, GRUB, etc. and then hit the power button. Could be if the disk
> is dumb enough to spin up for sync cache and standby when there is
> nothing to flush, and the kernel does its own standby, this could cause
> an extra spinup/down..

Yeah, that seems to be what's going on.  I don't think we have any other
choice than blacklisting those notebooks.  This is a mess.  How does the
other OS cope with this?

I'm thinking about using DMI vendor/product match to detect the affected
systems but I think it would be better to match the ACPI implementation
directly.  Is there a way to match specific ACPI implementation?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun
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