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Date:	Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:44:52 -0400
From:	Bill Davidsen <davidsen@....com>
To:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
CC:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/23] per device dirty throttling -v8

Alan Cox wrote:
>> However, relatime has the POSIX behavior without the overhead. Therefore 
> 
> No. relatime has approximately SuS behaviour. Its not the same as
> "correct" behaviour.
> 
Actually correct, but in terms of what can or does break, relatime seems 
a lot closer than noatime, I can't (personally) come up with any 
scenario where real applications would see something which would change 
behavior adversely.

Making noatime a default in the kernel requiring a boot option to 
restore current behavior seems to be a turn toward the "it doesn't 
really work right but it's *fast*" model. If vendors wanted noatime they 
are smart enough to enable it. Now with relatime giving most of the 
benefits and few (of any) of the side effects, I would expect a change.

By all means relatime by default in FC8, but not noatime, and let those 
who find some measurable benefit from noatime use it.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@....com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
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