linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures

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Message-ID: <20070816033343.GA31844@gondor.apana.org.au>
Date:	Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:33:43 +0800
From:	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>
To:	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures

On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 01:23:06PM +1000, Paul Mackerras wrote:
>
> In particular, atomic_read seems to lend itself to buggy uses.  People
> seem to do things like:
> 
> 	atomic_add(&v, something);
> 	if (atomic_read(&v) > something_else) ...

If you're referring to the code in sk_stream_mem_schedule
then it's working as intended.  The atomicity guarantees
that the atomic_add/atomic_sub won't be seen in parts by
other readers.

We certainly do not need to see other atomic_add/atomic_sub
operations immediately.

If you're referring to another code snippet please cite.

> I'd go so far as to say that anywhere where you want a non-"volatile"
> atomic_read, either your code is buggy, or else an int would work just
> as well.

An int won't work here because += and -= do not have the
atomicity guarantees that atomic_add/atomic_sub do.  In
particular, this may cause an atomic_read on another CPU
to give a bogus reading.

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