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Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:50:33 -0600
From: "Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@...tel.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all
architectures
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> - in other words, the *only* possible meaning for "volatile" is a purely
> single-CPU meaning. And if you only have a single CPU involved in the
> process, the "volatile" is by definition pointless (because even
> without a volatile, the compiler is required to make the C code appear
> consistent as far as a single CPU is concerned).
I assume you mean "except for IO-related code and 'random' values like
jiffies" as you mention later on? I assume other values set in
interrupt handlers would count as "random" from a volatility perspective?
> So anybody who argues for "volatile" fixing bugs is fundamentally
> incorrect. It does NO SUCH THING. By arguing that, such people only show
> that you have no idea what they are talking about.
What about reading values modified in interrupt handlers, as in your
"random" case? Or is this a bug where the user of atomic_read() is
invalidly expecting a read each time it is called?
Chris
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