linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures

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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0708170957350.3666@enigma.security.iitk.ac.in>
Date:	Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:02:13 +0530 (IST)
From:	Satyam Sharma <satyam@...radead.org>
To:	Segher Boessenkool <segher@...nel.crashing.org>
cc:	Christoph Lameter <clameter@....com>, heiko.carstens@...ibm.com,
	horms@...ge.net.au, Stefan Richter <stefanr@...6.in-berlin.de>,
	Bill Fink <billfink@...dspring.com>,
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	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, zlynx@....org,
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	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>, davem@...emloft.net,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	wensong@...ux-vs.org, wjiang@...ilience.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all
 architectures

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Segher Boessenkool wrote:

> > Here, I should obviously admit that the semantics of *(volatile int *)&
> > aren't any neater or well-defined in the _language standard_ at all. The
> > standard does say (verbatim) "precisely what constitutes as access to
> > object of volatile-qualified type is implementation-defined", but GCC
> > does help us out here by doing the right thing.
> 
> Where do you get that idea?

Try a testcase (experimentally verify).

> GCC manual, section 6.1, "When
> is a Volatile Object Accessed?" doesn't say anything of the
> kind.

True, "implementation-defined" as per the C standard _is_ supposed to mean
"unspecified behaviour where each implementation documents how the choice
is made". So ok, probably GCC isn't "documenting" this
implementation-defined behaviour which it is supposed to, but can't really
fault them much for this, probably.
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