linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures

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Message-ID: <18117.11376.111737.891134@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
Date:	Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:04:48 +1000
From:	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>
To:	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>
Cc:	Stefan Richter <stefanr@...6.in-berlin.de>,
	Satyam Sharma <satyam@...radead.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@....com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Chris Snook <csnook@...hat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures

Herbert Xu writes:

> So the point here is that if you don't mind getting a stale
> value from the CPU cache when doing an atomic_read, then
> surely you won't mind getting a stale value from the compiler
> "cache".

No, that particular argument is bogus, because there is a cache
coherency protocol operating to keep the CPU cache coherent with
stores from other CPUs, but there isn't any such protocol (nor should
there be) for a register used as a "cache".

(Linux requires SMP systems to keep any CPU caches coherent as far as
accesses by other CPUs are concerned.  It doesn't support any SMP
systems that are not cache-coherent as far as CPU accesses are
concerned.  It does support systems with non-cache-coherent DMA.)

Paul.
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