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Date:	Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:33:16 +0200
From:	Rene Herman <rene.herman@...il.com>
To:	Geoff Levand <geoffrey.levand@...sony.com>
CC:	Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>, cbe-oss-dev-owner@...abs.org,
	Satyam Sharma <satyam@...radead.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <Geert.Uytterhoeven@...ycom.com>,
	Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Cell Broadband Engine OSS Development 
	<cbe-oss-dev@...abs.org>, mokuno@...sony.co.jp
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PS3: Update MAINTAINERS

On 08/21/2007 10:17 PM, Geoff Levand wrote:

> Rene Herman wrote:
>> On 08/21/2007 10:01 PM, Joe Perches wrote:

>>> The reason it is being held:
>>>
>>>     Post by non-member to a members-only list
>> That means it's not a subcriber-only list -- the message wasn't rejected, 
>> just subjected to moderation.
>>
> 
> So maybe it would be more precise to have something like this:
> 
> -L:	cbe-oss-dev@...abs.org
> +L:	cbe-oss-dev@...abs.org	(moderated)

Perhaps. In these spamridden days, mailinglists that don't have the kind of 
(human and other) resources behind them that linux-kernel has basically have 
the choice between drowning in spam, becoming subscriber only or moderate 
non-subscribers and of these, that third option is "best among the bad".

alsa-devel for example also went this route -- the spam levels simply 
weren't tolerable anymore for any subscriber and the list was dying as a 
result. Moderation sucks, but subcriber-only sucks even worse (generally, 
and/but even more so for lists that expect crossposts from linux-kernel) so 
what's a small-time list to do.

Moderation takes some effort so the lists that moderate have made the 
explicit choice to not become subscriber-only. While subscriber-only 
certainly is useful to mention alongside the list address itself, I'm not 
too sure mentioning moderation makes a great deal of sense actually -- if 
all's well, the moderator will simply approve it and you don't have to deal 
with it other than that.

Rene.

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