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Message-ID: <20070822075912.GA7411@elte.hu>
Date:	Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:59:13 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ibm.com>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>,
	Jan Glauber <jang@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	heiko.carstens@...ibm.com, Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>
Subject: Re: [accounting regression since rc1]  scheduler updates


* Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ibm.com> wrote:

> Am Dienstag, 21. August 2007 schrieben Sie:
> > could you try the patch below, does it work any better?
> 
> I looked again at the scheduler code and things are getting better 
> when I run the patch below on top of your patch and with our 
> sched_clock prototype. I guess there is a reason why you want 
> rq->clock advanced by at least one tick?

yeah - on PCs if for whatever reason the TSC misbehaves (and that's 
quite frequent) then this code sets a minimum boundary for behavior. If 
sched_clock() is totally random or does not advance at all or goes 
backwards all the time then rq_clock() still functions and falls back to 
jiffies-granularity behavior in essence.

> We discussed calling scheduler_tick with virtual time as well.
> Would it have the same result?
> What would be the impact on latency?

if you call scheduler_tick() with virtual time then the "safety" 
measures in rq_clock() do not kick in and sched_clock() behaves 
correctly as far as the scheduler is concerned. (if everything is in 
virtual time then the scheduler has no way to observe/notice that in 
reality this is a virtual machine.)

> After looking at the current s390 timer code, it seems that this kind of 
> change is not trivial enough to be rc3+ ready. 
> I personally think, that for 2.6.23 we should use the patch against 
> fs/proc/array.c and everything else for 2.6.24?

yes, that has the least impact for .23 - i have added your array.c patch 
to my queue.

	Ingo
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