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Message-Id: <1187873988.6114.388.camel@twins>
Date:	Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:59:48 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@...e.de>
Cc:	Christoph Lameter <clameter@....com>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/7] Postphone reclaim laundry to write at high water
	marks

On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 14:08 +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 12:09:03AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Strictly speaking:
> > 
> > if:
> > 
> >  page = alloc_page(gfp);
> > 
> > fails but:
> > 
> >  obj = kmem_cache_alloc(s, gfp);
> > 
> > succeeds then its a bug.
> 
> Why? this is like saying that if alloc_pages(order=1) fails but
> alloc_pages(order=0) succeeds then it's a bug. Obviously it's not a
> bug.
> 
> The only bug is if slab allocations <=4k fails despite
> alloc_pages(order=0) would succeed.

That would be currently true. However I need it to be stricter.

I'm wanting to do networked swap. And in order to be able to receive
writeout completions when in the PF_MEMALLOC region I need to introduce
a new network state. This is because it needs to operate in a steady
state with limited (bounded) memory use.

Normal network either consumes memory, or fails to receive anything at
all.

So this new network state will allocate space for a packet, receive the
packet from the NIC, inspect the packet, and toss the packet when its
not found to be aimed at the VM (ie. does not contain a writeout
completion).

So the total memory consumption of this state is 0 - it always frees
what it takes, but the memory use is non 0 but bounded - it does
temporarily use memory, but will limit itself to never exceed a given
maximum)

Because the network stack runs on the slab allocator in generic (both
kmem_cache and kmalloc) I need this extra guarantee so that a slab
allocated from the reserves will not serve objects to some random
non-critical application.

If this is not restricted this network state can leak memory to outside
of PF_MEMALLOC and will not be stable.

So what I need is:

  kmem_cache_alloc(s, gfp) to fail when alloc_page(gfp) fails

agreeing on the extra condition:

  when kmem_cache_size(s) <= PAGE_SIZE

and the extra note that:

  I only really need it to fail for ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS, the other
  levels like ALLOC_HIGH and ALLOC_HARDER are not critical.

Which ends up with:

  if the current gfp-context does not allow ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS
allocations, and alloc_page() fails, so must kmem_cache_alloc(s,) if
kmem_cache_size(s) <= PAGE_SIZE.

(yes this leaves jumbo frames broken)

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