linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

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Message-ID: <20070824161451.GM21720@waste.org>
Date:	Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:14:51 -0500
From:	Matt Mackall <mpm@...enic.com>
To:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc:	Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@...log.com>,
	Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@...il.com>,
	Michal Piotrowski <michal.k.k.piotrowski@...il.com>,
	joe@...ches.com, yi.li@...log.com, vivi.li@...log.com,
	torvalds@...ux-foundation.org, sonic.zhang@...log.com,
	roy.huang@...log.com, robin.getz@...log.com,
	michael.hennerich@...log.com, michael.frysinger@...log.com,
	marc.hoffman@...log.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	jie.zhang@...log.com, grace.pan@...log.com,
	bernd.schmidt@...log.com, akpm@...ux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 10:09:43AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > As Mike said, "it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe,
> > > we will
> > > forward any relevant messages"
> > 
> > And as I said, "does your list generate a complaint message back to
> > the sender?" It's the moderation message that's the problem.
> 
> It doesn't send a complaint, it sends a useful note that your message is
> pending moderation.
> 
> The rest appears to be your personal issue Matt, perhaps caused by not
> setting up smart enough mail filters ?

My observation is actually from the other side, Alan. I run a list
that used to send exactly such messages and got complaints from people
in this community about running a subscribers-only list. My natural
conclusion was that the messages were considered to be a problem.
Given that the moderation messages from Mailman actually mention
"subscribers-only", I can't blame non-subscribers for feeling
thwarted, frustrated, annoyed, or inconvenienced when they receive it.

Since I was already whitelisting legitimate posters, I simply turned
off the moderation messages back to the poster. Now the fact that the
list is moderated is completely transparent and no one gets any rude
automated messages.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.
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