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Date:	Thu, 6 Sep 2007 23:16:15 +0200
From:	Oleg Verych <olecom@...wer.upol.cz>
To:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>
Cc:	Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@...glemail.com>, sam@...nborg.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] build system: section garbage collection for vmlinux

* Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:39:31 +0200

[]
>> > His patch improves the build process.
>> 
>> I would like to know timing, btw. Size, especially shown 1%, doesn't
>> matter if link time increased dramatically. `Allyes' config, when i
>> had fast and rammish machine was terrible thing (last winter). If 32
>> cores/cpus is will of author, then i'm even more suspicious.
>
> For non-developers size and speed of the kernel matter much more than 
> compile time.

I'm talking about benefits for the process (developers, testers) and
the result (end users, dogs eating own food :).

> When you go towards embedded systems with limited resources a 1% size 
> decrease would often be worth it even if it would (hypothetically) 
> increase the compile time by a factor of 10.

   text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
   5159478 1005139  406784 6571401  644589 linux-2.6.23-rc4.org/vmlinux
   5131822  996090  401439 6529351  63a147 linux-2.6.23-rc4.gc/vmlinux

Are this numbers show embedded target? I think no. Also time factor of
*10* can be spent more productively reviewing actual code of parts, that
are going to be embedded, no?

[]
>> > There's nothing that requires treatment.
>> 
>> [Help for] The developers/contributors of those drivers, no?
>>...
>
> They did everything right.
>
> You should better try to understand the problem first before behaving as 
> if you knew everything better than everyone else...

OK, thank you very much. Now, describe what problem you are talking
about, please. I see non.
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