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Date:	Sat, 08 Sep 2007 15:37:34 -0500
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au>
CC:	Andi Kleen <ak@...e.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@...el.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Intel Memory Ordering White Paper

Nick Piggin wrote:
> smp_rmb() should not need to do anything because loads are done
> in order anyway. Both AMD and Intel have committed to this now.
> 
> The important point is that they *appear* to be done in order. AFAIK,
> the CPUs can still do speculative and out of order loads, but throw
> out the results if they could be wrong.

Is there anything even semiofficial from VIA?  Not that the x86 
architecture isn't pretty much definable as the AMD-Intel consensus...

	-hpa

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