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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:16:02 +0100
From: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@...glemail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures
On Monday 10 September 2007 14:38, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> You are basically trying to educate me how to use atomic properly.
> You don't need to do it, as I am (currently) not a driver author.
>
> I am saying that people who are already using atomic_read()
> (and who unfortunately did not read your explanation above)
> will still sometimes use atomic_read() as a way to read atomic value
> *from memory*, and will create nasty heisenbugs for you to debug.
static inline int
qla2x00_wait_for_loop_ready(scsi_qla_host_t *ha)
{
int return_status = QLA_SUCCESS;
unsigned long loop_timeout ;
scsi_qla_host_t *pha = to_qla_parent(ha);
/* wait for 5 min at the max for loop to be ready */
loop_timeout = jiffies + (MAX_LOOP_TIMEOUT * HZ);
while ((!atomic_read(&pha->loop_down_timer) &&
atomic_read(&pha->loop_state) == LOOP_DOWN) ||
atomic_read(&pha->loop_state) != LOOP_READY) {
if (atomic_read(&pha->loop_state) == LOOP_DEAD) {
return_status = QLA_FUNCTION_FAILED;
break;
}
msleep(1000);
if (time_after_eq(jiffies, loop_timeout)) {
return_status = QLA_FUNCTION_FAILED;
break;
}
}
return (return_status);
}
Is above correct or buggy? Correct, because msleep is a barrier.
Is it obvious? No.
static void
qla2x00_rst_aen(scsi_qla_host_t *ha)
{
if (ha->flags.online && !ha->flags.reset_active &&
!atomic_read(&ha->loop_down_timer) &&
!(test_bit(ABORT_ISP_ACTIVE, &ha->dpc_flags))) {
do {
clear_bit(RESET_MARKER_NEEDED, &ha->dpc_flags);
/*
* Issue marker command only when we are going to start
* the I/O.
*/
ha->marker_needed = 1;
} while (!atomic_read(&ha->loop_down_timer) &&
(test_bit(RESET_MARKER_NEEDED, &ha->dpc_flags)));
}
}
Is above correct? I honestly don't know. Correct, because set_bit is
a barrier on _all _memory_? Will it break if set_bit will be changed
to be a barrier only on its operand? Probably yes.
drivers/kvm/kvm_main.c
while (atomic_read(&completed) != needed) {
cpu_relax();
barrier();
}
Obviously author did not know that cpu_relax is already a barrier.
See why I think driver authors will be confused?
arch/x86_64/kernel/crash.c
static void nmi_shootdown_cpus(void)
{
...
msecs = 1000; /* Wait at most a second for the other cpus to stop */
while ((atomic_read(&waiting_for_crash_ipi) > 0) && msecs) {
mdelay(1);
msecs--;
}
...
}
Is mdelay(1) a barrier? Yes, because it is a function on x86_64.
Absolutely the same code will be buggy on an arch where
mdelay(1) == udelay(1000), and udelay is implemented
as inline busy-wait.
arch/sparc64/kernel/smp.c
/* Wait for response */
while (atomic_read(&data.finished) != cpus)
cpu_relax();
...later in the same file...
while (atomic_read(&smp_capture_registry) != ncpus)
rmb();
I'm confused. Do we need cpu_relax() or rmb()? Does cpu_relax() imply rmb()?
(No it doesn't). Which of those two while loops needs correcting?
--
vda
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