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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709151122000.24221@asgard.lang.hm>
Date:	Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:23:16 -0700 (PDT)
From:	david@...g.hm
To:	Paul Rolland <rol@...917.net>
cc:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>,
	Stefan Richter <stefanr@...6.in-berlin.de>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...elEye.com>,
	Folkert van Heusden <folkert@...heusden.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org,
	rol@...be.net
Subject: Re: sata & scsi suggestion for make menuconfig

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Paul Rolland wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:15:22 +0200
> Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 04:54:07PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote:
>>> Adrian Bunk wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 05:11:44PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>>>>> Let's step back a moment and consider the actual scale and impact of
>>>>> the problem at hand.
>> Do "make menuconfig" with the .config you are normally using, count the
>> number of options that are visible, and ask yourself whether we can
>> really expect users to read the help texts for every single option shown.
>>
>> People mostly read help texts for options where they don't understand
>> what this option is about - and "Serial ATA" therefore is an option that
>> is likely to get enabled without the user looking at the help text.
>>
>
> As a "make menuconfig" user, let me say that I agree. Of course, I'm used
> to rebuild kernel, but sometimes, some options are not clear, and the help
> text is searched for. But, getting too much of "No help text available"
> usually results in people no more reading the help text.
>
> What about splitting the screen to have the top half with the menu, and the
> bottom half with the help ?

I useually have more screen space available to the side then above and 
below the list of options.

David Lang
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