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Message-ID: <46EEFA34.9000508@tmr.com>
Date:	Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:05:40 -0400
From:	Bill Davidsen <davidsen@....com>
To:	Dâniel Fraga <fragabr@...il.com>
CC:	linux-dvb@...uxtv.org, video4linux-list@...hat.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Userspace tuner

Dâniel Fraga wrote:
> 	Well, I'd like to see Linus' opinion about this, because while
> programmers keep discussing this, users are waiting forever... so if
> Markus has a concrete and better solution, why don't use it?
> 
> 	And as far as I know, Markus is the programmer who is most
> interested in this code. I didn't see anybody else in the world doing
> his work...
> 
> 	And I always had a impression that if most of things could be
> done in user space, than it will be better (for example, devfs -> udev).
> Why do everything in kernel space? Lets put *less* code in the kernel,
> not more code. And besides that, code in user space can be changed
> easily. Code in kernel has to wait a long time for Linus to accept (*if*
> he accepts).
> 
The problem with user space drivers is that it encourages binary only 
drivers, drivers which work only for a limited set of hardware, and 
other means to reduce choice for the user. There's a reason why binary 
modules make the kernel tainted, I have to feel that this is more and 
worse of same.

Linus will have an opinion, no doubt.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@....com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

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