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Message-ID: <20071003213112.GV19691@waste.org>
Date:	Wed, 3 Oct 2007 16:31:12 -0500
From:	Matt Mackall <mpm@...enic.com>
To:	Hugh Dickins <hugh@...itas.com>
Cc:	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: pgd_none_or_clear_bad strangeness?

On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 07:18:23PM +0100, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 05:20:03PM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > > In lib/pagewalk.c, I've been using the various forms of
> > > {pgd,pud,pmd}_none_or_clear_bad while walking page tables as that
> > > seemed the canonical way to do things. Lately (eg with -rc7-mm1),
> > > these have been triggering messages like "bad pgd 0x01e3" and causing
> > > nasty double faults. It appears this is actually triggered at the pmd
> > > level (mm/memory.c:116), though it appears to produce the wrong
> > > message.
> 
> I guess the "wrong message" is an artifact of pud/pmd folding;
> but I get too confused by the different levels myself to want to
> think more about it - I'll just assume it's "right" somehow ;)
> 
> > > 
> > > Has something changed here? I'm pretty sure this used to work! Is this
> 
> I don't know of anything changing here, sorry.
> 
> > > not a kosher thing to do? Does it make any sense I'd repeatedly run
> > > into a bad pmd in the middle of bash's page table right after boot?
> > > The simple _none variant seems to work, but I worry that it's papering
> > > over a real problem.
> > 
> > No, I think that should be the right thing to do for userspace pages.
> > You're not walking into a hugetlb area or a kernel mapping are you?
> > (the bad pgd: line could be important... 0x01e3 would be a linear kernel
> > mapping I think?).
> 
> I should have spent more time reading Nick's reply and less time trying
> to work it out for myself!  Yes, that's the conclusion I came to, for
> some reason you're now going beyond the user vmas and walking into the
> linear kernel mapping, which has _PAGE_GLOBAL and _PAGE_PSE bits set.

Indeed, that's precisely what's happening. I'm walking one page past
the end of userspace. 

And the reason is I changed my walker from using for loops to do/while
loops at Nick's insistance, so start==end no longer gets noticed
immediately. This also explains why the bug doesn't manifest in
lguest: no PSE mappings.

Thanks, guys!

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.
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