linux-kernel - Re: [RFC][PATCH] New message-logging API (kprint)

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Message-ID: <20071005180111.6111ccb3@the-village.bc.nu>
Date:	Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:01:11 +0100
From:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:	Rob Landley <rob@...dley.net>
Cc:	"Vegard Nossum" <vegard.nossum@...il.com>,
	"Randy Dunlap" <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Kyle Moffett" <mrmacman_g4@....com>,
	"Michael Holzheu" <holzheu@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Joe Perches" <joe@...ches.com>,
	"Dick Streefland" <dick.streefland@...ium.nl>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <Geert.Uytterhoeven@...ycom.com>,
	"Jesse Barnes" <jesse.barnes@...el.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@...db.de>,
	"Jan Engelhardt" <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>,
	"Emil Medve" <Emilian.Medve@...escale.com>,
	"Stephen Hemminger" <shemminger@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"linux@...izon.com" <linux@...izon.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <maxextreme@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] New message-logging API (kprint)

> > With the current code, localisation is not possible to do in a sane
> > way.
> 
> Run dmesg through a filter in userspace using lots of regular expressions.  
> Your average perl junkie could knock out a basic prototype in 20 minutes.

He did say "sane".

Good internationalisation requires you know where the messages are and
where the substitutions (%foo) are. So the entire operation would in fact
require

1.	An option to set "translation friendly please"

2.	A tiny modification to the snprintfoo code to support putting
some kind of marker before/after arguments and maybe doubling a symbol to
avoid vagueness

The submission is overkill compared to what is required for translation
tools and syslog.

Alan
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