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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0710091917410.3838@woody.linux-foundation.org>
Date:	Tue, 9 Oct 2007 19:22:27 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au>
cc:	Hugh Dickins <hugh@...itas.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: remove zero_page (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24)



On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Nick Piggin wrote:
> 
> Where do you suggest I go from here? Is there any way I can
> convince you to try it? Make it a config option? (just kidding)

No, I'll take the damn patch, but quite frankly, I think your arguments 
suck.

I've told you so before, and asked for numbers, and all you do is 
handwave. And this is like the *third*time*, and you don't even seem to 
admit that you're handwaving.

So let's do it, but dammit:
 - make sure there aren't any invalid statements like this in the final 
   commit message.
 - if somebody shows that you were wrong, and points to a real load, 
   please never *ever* make excuses for this again, ok? 

Is that a deal? I hope we'll never need to hear about this again, but I 
really object to the way you've tried to "sell" this thing, by basically 
starting out dishonest about what the problem was, and even now I've yet 
to see a *single* performance number even though I've asked for them 
(except for the problem case, which was introduced by *you*)

		Linus
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