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Date:	Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:31:35 +0200
From:	Patrick McHardy <kaber@...sh.net>
To:	Al Boldi <a1426z@...ab.com>
CC:	netfilter-devel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFD] iptables:  mangle table obsoletes filter table

Al Boldi wrote:
>>>The problem is that people think they are safe with the filter table,
>>>when in fact they need the prerouting chain to seal things.  Right now
>>>this is only possible in the mangle table.
>>
>>Why do they need PREROUTING?
> 
> 
> Well, for example to stop any transient packets being forwarded.  You could 
> probably hack around this using mark's, but you can't stop the implied route 
> lookup, unless you stop it in prerouting.


This also works fine in FORWARD with a little extra overhead.
If you really have to save resources, you should use PREROUTING/raw
to also avoid the creation of a connection tracking entry.

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