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Message-ID: <470F7555.4090500@trash.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:23:33 +0200
From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@...sh.net>
To: Al Boldi <a1426z@...ab.com>
CC: netfilter-devel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFD] iptables: mangle table obsoletes filter table
Al Boldi wrote:
> Patrick McHardy wrote:
>
>>Al Boldi wrote:
>>
>>>Well, for example to stop any transient packets being forwarded. You
>>>could probably hack around this using mark's, but you can't stop the
>>>implied route lookup, unless you stop it in prerouting.
>>
>>This also works fine in FORWARD with a little extra overhead.
>>If you really have to save resources, you should use PREROUTING/raw
>>to also avoid the creation of a connection tracking entry.
>
>
> Yes sure, if you use nat.
Conntrack.
> But can you see how forcing people into splitting
> their rules across tables adds complexity. And without ipt_REJECT patch,
> they can't even use REJECT in prerouting, which forces them to do some
> strange hacks.
>
> IMHO, we should make things as easily configurable as possible, and as things
> stand right now, the filter-table is completely useless for 99% of
> use-cases.
Sure, as I said, patches to remove the arbitary restrictions to
tables are welcome, but please do this for all targets and
matches which allow this, not only REJECT. And if you include a
seperate (tested) patch for the IPv4 and IPv6 REJECT targets
I'll consider it as well.
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