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Message-ID: <4717964A.8080100@hp.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:22:18 -0700
From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@...com>
To: Felix von Leitner <felix-linuxkernel@...e.de>
Cc: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@...hat.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: bizarre network timing problem
Felix von Leitner wrote:
>>the packet trace was a bit too cooked perhaps, but there were indications
>>that at times the TCP window was going to zero - perhaps something with
>>window updates or persist timers?
>
>
> Does TCP use different window sizes on loopback? Why is this not
> happening on ethernet?
I don't think it uses different window sizes on loopback, but with the
autotuning it can be difficult to say a priori what the window size will be.
What one can say with confidence is that the MTU and thus the MSS will be
different between loopback and ethernet.
>
> How could I test this theory?
Can you take another trace that isn't so "cooked?" One that just sticks with
TCP-level and below stuff?
If SMB is a one-request-at-a-time protocol (I can never remember), you could
simulate it with a netperf TCP_RR test by passing suitable values to the
test-specific -r option:
netperf -H <remote> -t TCP_RR -- -r <req>,<rsp>
If that shows similar behaviour then you can ass-u-me it isn't your application.
One caveat though is that TCP_CORK mode in netperf is very primitive and may
not match what you are doing, however, that may be a good thing.
http://www.netperf.org/svn/netperf2/tags/netperf-2.4.4/ or
ftp://ftp.netperf.org/netperf/
to get the current netperf bits. It is also possible to get multiple
transactions in flight at one time if you configure netperf with --enable-burst,
which will then enable a test-specific -b option. With the latest netperf you
cna also switch the output of a TCP_RR test to bits or bytes per second a la the
_STREAM tests.
rick jones
>
> My initial idea was that it has something todo with the different MTU on
> loopback. My initial block size was 16k, but the problem stayed when I
> changed it to 64k.
>
> Felix
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