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Message-ID: <20071018173054.GF6773@localdomain>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:30:54 -0500
From: Nathan Lynch <ntl@...ox.com>
To: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@...ibm.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@...ibm.com>,
Rusty Russel <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@...ibm.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...sign.ru>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
Paul E McKenney <paulmck@...ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/4] Rename lock_cpu_hotplug to get_online_cpus
Gautham R Shenoy wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 03:22:21AM -0500, Nathan Lynch wrote:
> > Gautham R Shenoy wrote:
> > > Hi Nathan,
> > > > Hi Gautham-
> > > >
> > > > Gautham R Shenoy wrote:
> > > > > Replace all lock_cpu_hotplug/unlock_cpu_hotplug from the kernel and use
> > > > > get_online_cpus and put_online_cpus instead as it highlights
> > > > > the refcount semantics in these operations.
> > > >
> > > > Something other than "get_online_cpus", please? lock_cpu_hotplug()
> > > > protects cpu_present_map as well as cpu_online_map. For example, some
> > > > of the powerpc code modified in this patch is made a bit less clear
> > > > because it is manipulating cpu_present_map, not cpu_online_map.
> > >
> > > A quick look at the code, and I am wondering why is lock_cpu_hotplug()
> > > used there in the first place. It doesn't look like we require any
> > > protection against cpus coming up/ going down in the code below,
> > > since the cpu-hotplug operation doesn't affect the cpu_present_map.
> >
> > The locking is necessary. Changes to cpu_online_map and
> > cpu_present_map must be serialized; otherwise you could end up trying
> > to online a cpu as it is being removed (i.e. cleared from
> > cpu_present_map). Online operations must check that a cpu is present
> > before bringing it up (kernel/cpu.c):
>
> Fair enough!
>
> But we are not protecting the cpu_present_map here using
> lock_cpu_hotplug(), now are we?
Yes, we are. In addition to the above, updates to cpu_present_map
have to be serialized. pseries_add_processor can be summed up as
"find the first N unset bits in cpu_present_map and set them". That's
not an atomic operation, so some kind of mutual exclusion is needed.
> The lock_cpu_hotplug() here, ensures that no cpu-hotplug operations
> occur in parallel with a processor add or a processor remove.
That's one important effect, but not the only one (see above).
> IOW, we're still ensuring that the cpu_online_map doesn't change
> while we're changing the cpu_present_map. So I don't see why the name
> get_online_cpus() should be a problem here.
The naming is a problem IMO for two reasons:
- lock_cpu_hotplug() protects cpu_present_map as well as
cpu_online_map (sigh, I see that Documentation/cpu-hotplug.txt
disagrees with me, but my statement holds for powerpc, at least).
- get_online_cpus() implies reference count semantics (as stated in
the changelog) but AFAICT it really has a reference count
implementation with read-write locking semantics.
Hmm, I think there's another problem here. With your changes, code
which relies on the mutual exclusion behavior of lock_cpu_hotplug()
(such as pseries_add/remove_processor) will now be able to run
concurrently. Probably those functions should use
cpu_hotplug_begin/end instead.
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