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Message-ID: <20071018231305.GA3035@Krystal>
Date:	Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:13:05 -0400
From:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>
To:	Ken Chen <kenchen@...gle.com>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] sched: schedstat needs a diet

* Ken Chen (kenchen@...gle.com) wrote:
> On 10/18/07, Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca> wrote:
> > Good question indeed. How large is this memory footprint exactly ? If it
> > is as small as you say, I suspect that the real issue could be that
> > these variable are accessed by the scheduler critical paths and
> > therefore trash the caches.
> 
> Maybe my wording was ambiguous, I meant to reduce cache line pollution
> when accessing these schedstat fields.
> 
> With unsigned long, on x86_64, schedstat consumes 288 bytes for each
> sched_domain and 128 bytes in struct rq.  On a extremely small system
> that has a couple of CPU sockets with one level of numa node, there
> will be 704 bytes per CPU for schedstat.  Given the sparseness of
> them, we are probably talking about 11-12 cache line eviction on
> several heavily used scheduler functions.  Reduce cache line pollution
> is the primary goal, actual memory consumption isn't really a concern.
> 

Generally speaking, if such cache trashing is an issue, why don't we
make sure that each task struct member is declared in this structure
following its access frequency ? (except for #ifdef blocks, which should
stay together) It could then statistically save a lot of cachelines.

Or is it already the case ? It doesn't look like it when I see:

struct list_head ptrace_list;

Just beside the 

struct mm_struct *mm, *active_mm;

pointers.

Mathieu

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Mathieu Desnoyers
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