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Message-ID: <20071021225946.GF30533@stusta.de>
Date:	Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:59:46 +0200
From:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>
To:	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>
Cc:	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@...e.de>,
	Thomas Fricaccia <thomas_fricacci@...oo.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: LSM conversion to static interface

On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 08:57:06AM +1000, James Morris wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> 
> > >I'd like to note that I asked people who were actually affected, and had 
> > >examples of their real-world use to step forward and explain their use, 
> > >and that I explicitly mentioned that this is something we can easily 
> > >re-visit.
> > 
> > I do have a pseudo LSM called "multiadm" at 
> > http://freshmeat.net/p/multiadm/ , quoting:
> 
> Based on Linus' criteria, this appears to be a case for reverting the 
> static LSM patch.
>...

If you take it that strictly, the in-kernel root_plug LSM could have 
been considered enough reason for reverting...

The interesting question is IMHO still:

Were Greg and Jan the only people to write such LSMs, or how many 
non-abusive users that make sense as modules do really exist after
5 years?

Either you can count such real-world users with your fingers or there's 
a reason why these modules didn't get included.

IOW:
Either the API has proven to not attract enough modular users or we are 
having a to-be-fixed problem with getting the LSMs submitted and 
included.

> - James

cu
Adrian

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