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Message-ID: <4721221A.1020309@imap.cc>
Date:	Fri, 26 Oct 2007 01:09:14 +0200
From:	Tilman Schmidt <tilman@...p.cc>
To:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>
CC:	Simon Arlott <simon@...e.lp0.eu>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@...s-sol.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@...e.de>,
	Thomas Fricaccia <thomas_fricacci@...oo.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
	Crispin Cowan <crispin@...spincowan.com>,
	Giacomo Catenazzi <cate@...ian.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to	static
 interface)

Am 25.10.2007 00:31 schrieb Adrian Bunk:
> Generally, the goal is to get external modules included into the kernel.
> [...] even though it might sound harsh breaking
> external modules and thereby making people aware that their code should 
> get into the kernel is IMHO a positive point.

This argument seems to start from the assumption that any externally
maintained kernel code *can* get into the kernel, which doesn't stand
up to  reality. Once you admit that there is code which, for very good
reasons, won't ever be accepted into the mainline kernel tree, what you
are saying amounts to: "Code that isn't fit to be included in the
mainline kernel isn't fit to exist at all."

I'm not sure I can agree with that.

-- 
Tilman Schmidt                          E-Mail: tilman@...p.cc
Bonn, Germany
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