linux-kernel - Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface)

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Message-ID: <64482.42947.qm@web36608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:03:37 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>
Cc:	Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>,
	Simon Arlott <simon@...e.lp0.eu>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@...s-sol.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@...e.de>,
	Thomas Fricaccia <thomas_fricacci@...oo.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
	Crispin Cowan <crispin@...spincowan.com>,
	Giacomo Catenazzi <cate@...ian.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface)


--- Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > 
> > What I'm giving you is "Linus has decreed there can be LSMs other than 
> > SELinux."
> > 
> > Getting LSMs included should no longer be harder than for other 
> > parts of the kernel.
> 
> Well, despite my heart-felt feelings that we should support different 
> people in trying out different things, one of the issues is also that I'm 
> obviously not myself a security person. I can "decree" all I want, but in 
> the end, I really want the people *involved* to merge security stuff. 
> 
> Right now Chris Wrigt is the documented maintainer for LSM, and quite 
> frankly, I do not want to take it over. I really really really hope that
> people that are interested in security can work this thing out, and my 
> only requirement is that it doesn't end up being any kind of force-feeding 
> of opinions and ideas, since clearly there is tons of room for 
> disagreement in the area..
> 
> Do other people want to stand up and be "LSM maintainers" in the sense 
> that they also end up being informed members who can also stand up for new 
> modules and help merge them, rather than just push the existing one(s)? 
> Chris? Casey? Crispin?

Count me in.

> [ Ie there's the "core LSM hooks" on one side, but there's also the "what 
>   modules make any sense at all to merge?" on the other, and I really 
>   don't have the expertise to make any sensible judgements except for the 
>   pure "process" judgement that we should not hardcode things to just one 
>   module! ]
> 
> 		Linus
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