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Message-ID: <20071031092907.4a026e72@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
Date:	Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:29:07 -0700
From:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
To:	fche@...hat.com (Frank Ch. Eigler)
Cc:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...otime.net>, hch@...radead.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>,
	Prasanna S Panchamukhi <prasanna@...ibm.com>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@...ibm.com>,
	Anil S Keshavamurthy <anil.s.keshavamurthy@...el.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <pzijlstr@...hat.com>,
	Philippe Elie <phil.el@...adoo.fr>,
	"William L. Irwin" <wli@...omorphy.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <christoph@...eter.com>,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
Subject: Re: [RFC] Create kinst/ or ki/ directory ?

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:48:20 -0400
fche@...hat.com (Frank Ch. Eigler) wrote:

> Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca> writes:
> 
> > [...]  SystemTAP, for instance, does it out of tree by keeping a
> > separate list of address where kprobes must be installed. It does
> > the job on a distribution kernel maintainer perspective (Redhat),
> > since they freeze to a particular kernel version and update this
> > list every time it breaks, but will always be a source of
> > frustration for vanilla kernel users and kernel developers.
> 
> This misstates the details.  What systemtap has out-of-tree is a list
> of kernel function names (and parameter names), not addresses.  This
> list does change somewhat with kernel versions, but we generally keep
> up.  We do test with vanilla kernels, and several non-RH distributors
> test with their kernels.  It is a problem, but it is manageable.

yes so please please submit this stuff for mainline inclusion as has
been asked quite a few times before.



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