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Message-ID: <47352FC9.9080701@garzik.org>
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:12:57 -0500
From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
To: Brian Gerst <bgerst@...ntduck.org>
CC: Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/11 v3] enable "make ARCH=x86"
Brian Gerst wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> Sam Ravnborg wrote:
>>> This is the patch that get rid of ARCH=i386 and ARCH=x86_64
>>> and introduce ARCH=x86.
>>> It touches several files but the changes are all one or two-liners.
>>>
>>> x86: drop backward compatibility symlinks to i386/boot and
>>> x86_64/boot
>>> kbuild: sanity check the specified arch
>>
>> IMO it negatives impacts the workflow when you -remove- the ability to
>> set 32/64-bit on the make command line.
>>
>> Building and testing for both architectures now requires the additional
>> step of editing .config, which is a clear workflow negative impact at
>> least for me.
>>
>> I switch between other cross-compiled arches (alpha, usually) on the
>> makefile command line
>>
>> Yes, I know other 32/64-bit arches require .config editing. That
>> doesn't change the basic fact that this is a workflow regression.
>>
>> Jeff
>
> You can use:
>
> make i386_defconfig
> make x86_64_defconfig
Does that work for alpha too?
> In any other case you'd be editing the .config anyways.
No, that's a logic rathole down which I will not follow :)
You can make any argument along those lines command line usage is really
an art, not a science. Its a user interface, and that involves human
taste rather than logic.
I've been bouncing between architectures using ARCH= for years, and my
fingers and brain have been trained. It's just disappointing and a pain
to change this nice user interface that has served so well for years.
This is /not/ a cleanup, it's a user interface change.
Jeff
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