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Message-ID: <8bd0f97a0711121250m63466b55u26184f31b2984328@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:50:55 -0500
From:	"Mike Frysinger" <vapier.adi@...il.com>
To:	"Jan Engelhardt" <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>
Cc:	axboe@...nel.dk,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Include header required for INT_MAX

On Nov 11, 2007 5:52 PM, Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...putergmbh.de> wrote:
> >> Nack, we shoiuld never include userspace headers in kernel headers,
> >> an even more never add !__KERNEL__ ifdefs.  Just make sure your
> >> programs include limit.h before including linux/cdrom.h.
> >
> >I think header files should be complete, and should not use undefined
> >macros, picking up every random definition that may be in effect when
> >the header is included, don't you agree?
>
> No, because I be damn sure that some developers try compiling programs
> in non-linux environments (cygwin, solaris, andyourpersonaldistro, you
> name it) which do not have to adhere to <limits.h>. It might use
> <cosmiclimits.h> instead, or whatever.
> Hence, such extra includes are a nogo.

why are non-linux environments even relevant to the discussion ?
we're talking about fixing up a *linux header* file, so anyone doing
"#include <linux/cdrom.h>" in a non-linux environment is just stupid.

if yourpersonaldistro is a pos and doesnt provide a POSIX compliant
limits.h, then that distro is garbage and should be deleted and have
no bearing whatsoever on the direction of linux.
-mike
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