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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:39:45 -0700 From: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@...glemail.com> To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org> Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, Benoit Boissinot <bboissin@...il.com>, Mark Lord <liml@....ca>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, protasnb@...il.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org, alsa-devel@...a-project.org, linux-ide@...r.kernel.org, linux-pcmcia@...ts.infradead.org, linux-input@...ey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, bugme-daemon@...zilla.kernel.org Subject: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs On Tuesday 13 November 2007 10:56, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:13:56PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Benoit Boissinot wrote: > > > Btw, I used to test every -mm kernel. But since I've switched distros > > > (gentoo->ubuntu) > > > and I have less time, I feel it's harder to test -rc or -mm kernels (I > > > know this isn't a lkml problem > > > but more a distro problem, but I would love having an ubuntu blessed > > > repo with current dev kernel > > > for the latest stable ubuntu release). > > > > There are two parts to this. One is a Ubuntu development kernel which > > we can give to large numbers of people to expand our testing pool. > > But if we don't do a better job of responding to bug reports that > > would be generated by expanded testing this won't necessarily help us. > >... > > The main problem aren't missing testers [1] - we already have relatively > experienced people testing kernels and/or reporting bugs, and we slowly > scare them away due to the many bug reports without any reaction. > > The main problem is finding experienced developers who spend time on > looking into bug reports. > > Getting many relatively unexperienced users (who need more guidance for > debugging issues) as additional testers is therefore IMHO not > necessarily a good idea. And where experienced developrs are coming from? They are not born with Linux kernel skills. They grow up from within user base. Bigger user base -> more developers (eventually) -- vda - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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