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Message-ID: <20071115215938.44233733@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
Date:	Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:59:38 -0800
From:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
To:	Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com>
Cc:	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	davem@...emloft.net, netdev@...t.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [NET]: rt_check_expire() can take a long time, add a
 cond_resched()

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:12:21 +0100
Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com> wrote:

> Eric Dumazet a écrit :
> > Arjan van de Ven a écrit :
> >> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 04:01:48 GMT
> >> Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Gitweb:
> >>> http://git.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=d90bf5a976793edfa88d3bb2393f0231eb8ce1e5 
> >>>
> >>> Commit:     d90bf5a976793edfa88d3bb2393f0231eb8ce1e5 Parent:
> >>> 66ba886254edbbd9442d30f1eef6f6fb0145027d Author:     Eric Dumazet
> >>> <dada1@...mosbay.com> AuthorDate: Wed Nov 14 16:14:05 2007 -0800
> >>> Committer:  David S. Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
> >>> CommitDate: Wed Nov 14 16:14:05 2007 -0800
> >>>
> >>>     [NET]: rt_check_expire() can take a long time, add a
> >>> cond_resched()     On commit
> >>> 39c90ece7565f5c47110c2fa77409d7a9478bd5b:
> >>
> >>>     When the IP route cache is big, rt_check_expire() can take a
> >>> long time to run.  (default settings : 20% of the hash table is
> >>> scanned at each invocation)
> >>>         Adding cond_resched() helps giving cpu to higher priority 
> >>> tasks if
> >>>     necessary.
> >>>         Using a "if (need_resched())" test before calling
> >>> "cond_resched();" is necessary to avoid spending too much time
> >>> doing the resched check. 
> >>
> >> int __sched cond_resched(void)
> >> {
> >>         if (need_resched() &&  .....
> >>
> >> somehow I wonder why the second if() is useful at all; it's another
> >> spot for a branch predictor to miss... and a void function call is
> >> really really cheap... 
> > 
> > Its not that cheap. The ChangeLog included my own numbers, on a
> > Pentium M machine. (i686, 1.6 GHz, 1.5 GB ram)
> > 
> > Without "if (need_resched())" (so calling need_resched() X.XXX.XXX 
> > times), each run takes 88ms
> > 
> > With the extra check (and *much* less function calls), each run
> > takes 25ms
> > 
> 
> Looking at cond_resched(), I think the extra cost comes from
> "mov %esp,%edx ; and $0xffffe000,%edx" (current_thread_info())
> 
> I dont have oprofile numbers yet, but I suspect CPU may have some
> delays to compute this pointer value, since %esp is probably 'busy'
> because of the preceding "call"

yeah the explicit reference makes the stack pointer tracking engine do a
commit I suspect which then also creates a data dependency in the code
flow.

however... this is likely a good argument for making cond_resched() as a
whole a #define (or inline) that does this test and then calls the out
of line code (which then doesn't need to retest, so it avoids the
double test)...




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