linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH x86/mm 6/6] x86-64 ia32 ptrace get/putreg32 current task

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Message-ID: <474F1027.2020801@zytor.com>
Date:	Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:16:55 -0800
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@...e.de>
CC:	Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@...hat.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@...hat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH x86/mm 6/6] x86-64 ia32 ptrace get/putreg32 current task

Andi, do you happen to remember the details on this?

	-hpa


Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>>> It is advantageous for user space to use the register the kernel typically
>>>> won't, in order to speed up system call entry/exit.
>>> but I'm not seeing the reason for that one. Care to comment more? (Yes,
>>> there is often a latency from segment reload to use, but the reload latency
>>> for system call exit *should* be entirely covered by the cost of doing the
>>> system call return itself, no?)
>> I do seem to recall that some processor implementations can load a NULL
>> segment faster than a non-NULL segment.  This was significant enough that we
>> wanted to use %fs in x86-64 userspace, as opposed to the original ABI which
>> used %gs both in userspace and in the kernel.
> 
> Ahh, I think you may be right for some CPUs. The zero selector is indeed 
> potentially faster to load, since it doesn't have to even bother looking 
> at the GDT/LDT.
> 
> That said, I doubt it's very noticeable. I just ran tests on both an old 
> P4 and on a more modern Core 2 machine, and for both of those the 
> performance was identical between loading a NUL selector and loading it 
> with a non-zero one.
> 
> But I could well imagine that it matters a few cycles on other CPU's. But 
> from my testing, it definitely isn't noticeable, and I think the 
> maintenance advantage of using the same segment setup would more than make 
> up for the fact that maybe some odd CPU can see a difference.
> 
> 			Linus
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