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Message-ID: <m1bq9a5gxf.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
Date:	Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:54:52 -0700
From:	ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To:	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Mark Lord <lkml@....ca>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>, Tejun Heo <htejun@...il.com>,
	Linux Containers <containers@...ts.osdl.org>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, cornelia.huck@...ibm.com,
	stern@...land.harvard.edu, kay.sievers@...y.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: namespace support requires network modules to say "GPL"

Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...ux-foundation.org> writes:

> On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:10:17 -0500
> Mark Lord <lkml@....ca> wrote:
>
>> > Now that we have network namespace support merged it is time to
>> > revisit the sysfs support so we can remove the dependency on !SYSFS.
>> ...
>> 
>> Now that the namespace updates are part of 2.6.24,
>> there is a major inconsistency in network EXPORT_SYMBOLs.
>> 
>> It used to be that an external network module could get away without
>> having to add a MODULE_LICENSE("GPL*") line to the source.
>> 
>> In support of that, common networking functions (still) use EXPORT_SYMBOL()
>> rather than the more restrictive EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL().
>> 
>> Eg.  register_netdev(), sk_alloc(), __dev_get_by_name().
>> 
>> But now, none of those three are actually usable by default,
>> because they all require "init_net", which is EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL().

Which alternative kernel does the above comment apply to?

> Then init_net needs to be not GPL limited. Sorry, we need to allow
> non GPL network drivers.

For the record network drivers should not be affected.  As a practical
measure that just gets unmaintainable and it is unnecessary.

There are specific exceptions where network drivers mess with the userspace
interfaces where I do have some impact.  However if you are messing
with our userspace interface especially with network namespaces in place
I don't see how it is possible for you to be anything other then a derivative
work, and something we need in tree to keep maintenance a manageable thing.

It should just be the core of the network stack that struct net has some
effect on.

> There is a fine line between keeping the
> binary seething masses from accessing random kernel functions, and allowing
> reasonable (but still non GPL) things like ndiswrapper to use network
> device interface.

Does ndiswrapper break?  If so what dubious and unsupportable thing is
it doing?

Eric
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