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Message-Id: <1196674170.25646.121.camel@ymzhang>
Date:	Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:29:30 +0800
From:	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: sched_yield: delete sysctl_sched_compat_yield

On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 11:08 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > Haven't we been asking JVMs to use futexes or posix locking for years 
> > and years now? [...]
> 
> i'm curious, with what JVM was it tested and where's the source so i can 
> fix their locking for them? Can the problem be reproduced with:
> 
>   http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/source/SRPMS/java-1.7.0-icedtea-1.7.0.0-0.20.b23.snapshot.fc9.src.rpm
I used BEA Jrockit to run volanoMark. Because of no Jrockit source codes, so
I retested volanoMark by jre-1.7.0-icedtea.x86_64 java of Fedora Core 8 on my stoakley (8-core)
machine with kernel 2.6.24-rc3.

1) Jrockit: sched_compat_yield=0's result is less than 15% of sched_compat_yield=1's.
2) jre-1.7.0-icedtea: sched_compat_yield=0's result is less than 89% of sched_compat_yield=1's.

So JVM really has much impact on the regression.

I checked the source codes of openjdk and found Thread.yield is implemented as native sched_yield.
If java applications call Thread.yield, it just calls sched_yield. garbage collection and other JVM
threads also calls Thread.yield. That's why 2 different JVM have different regression percentage.

Although no source codes of volanoMark, I suspect it calls Thread.sched. volanoMark is a kind
of chatroom benchmark. When a client sends out a message, server will send the message to all clients.
I suspect the client calls Thread.yield after sending out a couple of messages.

2 JVM all have regression if sched_compat_yield=0.

I ran some testing, such like iozone/specjbb/tbench/dbench/sysbench, and didn't see regression.

-yanmin

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